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--[[User:Paddy3118|Paddy3118]] ([[User talk:Paddy3118|talk]]) 06:48, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
--[[User:Paddy3118|Paddy3118]] ([[User talk:Paddy3118|talk]]) 06:48, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

::Maybe https://www.google.com/search?q=fibonacci+sunflower+drawing&tbm=isch --[[User:Petelomax|Pete Lomax]] ([[User talk:Petelomax|talk]]) 11:45, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

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This is not a fractal

This is not a fractal. Fractals are self-similar under different magnifications. This pattern is not. It would be more accurate to refer to this task as "Fibonacci packing" or "Phi packing" See http://www.maths.surrey.ac.uk/hosted-sites/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fibnat2.html and https://www.mathsisfun.com/numbers/nature-golden-ratio-fibonacci.html.

Hello,
May I am not right but see the next link:
Fractals in theory and practice
Greetings,
Gal Zsolt
(~ CalmoSoft ~)
That page is simply wrong. This sunflower picture is not a fractal.
In colloquial usage, "fractal" is often taken to mean merely "self-similar", whereas more rigorous usage might also speak of its Hausdorff dimension. Clearly the logarithmic curve is self-similar (zoom the origin to any scale and it looks "same"), but it never gets any more "detailed" - still just a one-dimensional (topologically) line at any scale. (contrast that with what happens when you zoom the Mandelbrot set or a Hilbert curve) But, the real problem here is that the task is insufficiently described anyway - containing only a link to a long-dead page that not even the wayback machine has a copy of. Davbol (talk) 23:51, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Tasks need a description

In addition to the controversy mentioned on this page about whether this is a fractal, the task description is not adequately explained on the task page and instead is mostly a dead link.

Currently, there's no objective way of determining whether any implementations satisfy the task requirements. --Rdm (talk) 06:44, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Dead Link

Not only dead, but was originally to a personal Onedrive location. That doesn't seem stable enough to base a task on, as we now know.

--Paddy3118 (talk) 06:48, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Maybe https://www.google.com/search?q=fibonacci+sunflower+drawing&tbm=isch --Pete Lomax (talk) 11:45, 18 September 2021 (UTC)