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:: Go ahead and implement a correct version, and mark my PHP example incorrect. --[[User:Short Circuit|Michael Mol]] 00:52, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
:: Go ahead and implement a correct version, and mark my PHP example incorrect. --[[User:Short Circuit|Michael Mol]] 00:52, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
: Multiple versions [[wp:There_Was_an_Old_Lady_Who_Swallowed_a_Fly]] and goats and donkeys too it seems. There are also alternate choruses. --[[User:Dgamey|Dgamey]] 12:12, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
: Multiple versions [[wp:There_Was_an_Old_Lady_Who_Swallowed_a_Fly]] and goats and donkeys too it seems. There are also alternate choruses. --[[User:Dgamey|Dgamey]] 12:12, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
: That's "There was an old lady", and not "I knew an old lady" which is what the task asks for. Perhaps http://www.peterpaulandmary.com/music/17-07.htm? This instance of Peter, Paul and Mary lyrics also seem to have an additional advantage: they avoid the irregular punctuation that appeared in the rhymes.org.uk version --[[User:Rdm|Rdm]] 16:50, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


==Copyright!==
==Copyright!==

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“Where's my cow?”

“I knew an old lady who swallowed a cow. I don't know how she swallowed the cow.” –Donal Fellows 23:34, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Here--Dgamey 00:03, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Go ahead and implement a correct version, and mark my PHP example incorrect. --Michael Mol 00:52, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Multiple versions wp:There_Was_an_Old_Lady_Who_Swallowed_a_Fly and goats and donkeys too it seems. There are also alternate choruses. --Dgamey 12:12, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Copyright!

According to this and this and this the song is not that old and has an author. I note that none of those quote the lyrics so I think we may be on shaky copyright grounds. --Paddy3118 06:10, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

If it was registered in 1951, it may have fallen out of copyright. All works published in the US prior to a date (somewhere in the 1930s?) will have fallen out of copyright, but some afterward will have as well, depending on whether they bothered to renew their registrations. I'm not an expert on the subject, though. Trying to identify how to look up registration history on a work. Otherwise, yeah, that stands to be a major problem. --Michael Mol 13:25, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
We should also note that the recording industry is known to a bunch of litigious <insert your own appropriate word here>. Which is another reason to err on the side of caution. --Paddy3118 15:47, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Believe me, I'm unlikely to forget. I've lived with a paranoia about the RIAA for over a decade. I've removed the program results, and the code itself is incorrect, though it probably qualifies as a derivative work. I wonder if the current LOC exemptions set for the DMCA includes this form of 'educational use.' That said, I don't think they're going to care terribly much. I still want to look into when/if copyright was registered (the song was produced before things were automagically copyrighted without registration). If I can show that the copyright fell out of registration, or that a current LOC exemption would include RC, then I'd be comfortable moving forward with the task. If I get a DMCA notice, I'll take it down and replace it with an explanation of all the facts and a link to [chillingeffects.org chillingeffects.org]. I won't fight something in a way I can't afford to fight it.--Michael Mol 16:10, 16 August 2011 (UTC)