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: As of 2020, who are the current moderators, and are any active? Who is the server admin? [[User:Jeremydouglass|Jeremydouglass]] ([[User talk:Jeremydouglass|talk]]) 05:48, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::At this time there are there are just three bureaucrats active with any regularity. Me, ([[User:Thundergnat|Thundergnat]]), [[User:Paddy3118|Paddy3118]], and occasionally [[User:Rdm|Rdm]]. None of us have any control over or access to the server or back-end workings of the site. The site owner and server admin [[User:Short_Circuit|Short Circuit]] has been mostly unavailable since mid 2016 or so. --[[User:Thundergnat|Thundergnat]] ([[User talk:Thundergnat|talk]]) 10:34, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::: Thank you! Is there a preferred venue for you to briefly chat about site questions -- this Village Pump, IRC, Twitter etc.? [[User:Jeremydouglass|Jeremydouglass]] ([[User talk:Jeremydouglass|talk]]) 18:52, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:::: If you want to get my or Paddy3118s attention, it is probably best to leave a message on our talk page. I don't visit the IRC chat room regularly, don't twitter, and don't give out my e-mail freely. Let me warn you up front; we have little control over or knowledge of the server or back-end software. Basically just janitors. Anything more involved would have to involve [[User:Short_Circuit|Short Circuit]] but he has been very scarce as of late. --[[User:Thundergnat|Thundergnat]] ([[User talk:Thundergnat|talk]]) 19:15, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::::: If we are concerned about [[User:Short_Circuit|Short Circuit]] and site stability, probably the right thing to do would be to set up a(some) mirror(s) of the site. I imagine that Short Circuit will be around for many years. But the skills and motivations involved in running a mirror are closely related to the sort of skills needed to keep the site up. And, if there is an emergency or some such, it's always handy to have backups. --[[User:Rdm|Rdm]] ([[User talk:Rdm|talk]]) 20:24, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:::: Thanks Thundergnat, Rdm. I'll keep talk pages in mind if I need to reach out. I currently have some projects that involving contributing to / indexing Rosetta Code, and it would be nice to know that there are backups other than archive.org.
:::: Mirrors: I would be happy to contribute a mirror -- although it seems (?) like mirroring options for mediawiki sites in general are quite limited. From what I can tell by taking a quick look around, WP-mirror is foundation-only and potentially out of date, while other notes on what to do seem more like future plans than best practices, like this discussion: bjohas.de/wiki/Mediawiki_mirror. Hosting offsite backups might be the best first step. [[User:Jeremydouglass|Jeremydouglass]] ([[User talk:Jeremydouglass|talk]]) 22:55, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::::: Something to keep in mind is that we have a significant number of good programmers who visit this site. We might have orders of magnitude more talent here than MediaWiki has. So, if there were some reasonably well defined component missing from the system that would make mirroring function, it might be that you could attract a volunteer to craft it for you. (Or, if there are multiple significant missing components, maybe multiple volunteers).
 
::::: Mind you, there are still limitations -- we would need a good clear specification and documentation, up front, or we are likely to wear out our volunteers (and our welcome). Also -- being volunteers -- this effort might not be quick to catch anyone's attention. Just getting the request in front of the right set of eyes is a big part of this. And, there's other details -- enhancing mediawiki probably means setting up a copy of mediawiki to experiment on, and the language choice would be rather limited (which will cut down on the volunteer pool -- but maybe not as much as you might think).
 
::::: That said, we've already a task up which spiders this site. So if or when the right interfaces are available on the server, getting useful mirroring software fleshed out to be useful might even involve a worthy rosettacode task? It's something to think about, at least... --[[User:Rdm|Rdm]] ([[User talk:Rdm|talk]]) 00:53, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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