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==Improve tag on Python entry==
I added an improve tag on the Python entry as it does not look or read like idiomatic Python. To avoid an edit war I will state my reasons:
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The type hints for the compiler, and the informal Hindley Milner type signature comments for the human reader serve two entirely different purposes, and are not at all in tension with each other. As the useful notes on this JS project point out https://github.com/ramda/ramda/wiki/Type-Signatures comments/annotation of this kind have become a kind of language-independent standard in functional programming generally. In some projects, like Purescript, they do have a role in compilation as well as providing clarity for the reader, but in other projects, like Ramda, they are entirely for the reader, and simply serve to summarise the semantics of the function in a brief and relatively standardized way. No need to deprive the reader of them simply on grounds of tribal shibboleth zealotry, border patrolling, or heresiology. A comment is just a comment. :-) [[User:Hout|Hout]] ([[User talk:Hout|talk]]) 23:05, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
: Python type hints are also more than those I auto-generated; as is the use of docstrings. Try writing something like idiomatic Functional Python; with its none-Haskell peculiarities rather than believing such things are beneath you. Python has an existing set of functions that the community has expended the effort to learn and/or expect to learn. If you convert and create your own set of functions then readers cannot use that Python knowledge they have. Just as I don't see you using Lisps car and cadr you've probably decided to use your own names for things that were named before. It reads as if you have your own set of functions and know how to use them to solve problems; as well as how to define them in terms of Pythons functions - a translation of sorts. [[User:Paddy3118|Paddy3118]] ([[User talk:Paddy3118|talk]]) 17:33, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
:: Paddy or Donald, the only intervention I have ever made in your code is to point out that your pythonic example for a new task that you were offering (Cosine laws, I think) generated the wrong result. Even then, I aimed for extreme tact and discretion, and simply offered an alternative draft in functional Python which produced the correct result – politely (I hope) drawing your attention, without comment, to the 'mystery' of the divergence.
:: I have no interest '''at all''' in changing your style of Python – please now desist from trying to change mine.
:: The Python community is large and diverse, does not always agree, and does not need to.
:: I respectfully suggest that if we do differ, we express those differences by submitting alternative solutions, with differing approaches, to the same problem, thereby enriching Rosetta Code rather than simply making making it noisier and more acrimonious.
:: That is more than enough now. Your persistent and unremitting attentions and intrusions now feel persecutory. Please move on. [[User:Hout|Hout]] ([[User talk:Hout|talk]]) 18:11, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
== Can we turn down the heat somewhat? ==
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:: Oh dear – deletionary zeal is back again this morning ... See under mcNuggets Talk. Sigh ... [[User:Hout|Hout]] ([[User talk:Hout|talk]]) 08:19, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
:: Good heavens ... the appetite for attrition seems strong ... further notices, and now a whole discussion added to my talk page. I suggest that we just (1) agree that PEP8 linters are a good idea (I have used them throughout) (2) accept that functional Python, about which there
:: To be honest, I begin to feel a little harassed. Surely that can't be the intention ? I am not ''quite'' sure what is going on ... [[User:Hout|Hout]] ([[User talk:Hout|talk]]) 12:40, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
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